In this episode, Joel interviews Kyona McGhee, a trademark lawyer from Detroit. Joel and Kyona talk Jesus Christ’s opinions of lawyers. Kyona shares her legal journey from having her mom arrested during her childhood to graduating valedictorian of her law school and following the demand for trademark law. Kyona gives her expertise on different trademark cases and scenarios from trademarking your own name, the word “the,” and profanity. Listen for excellent trademarking advice and entertaining stories from Joel and Kyona.


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